[FOSDEM] Meetup for mail server admins on Saturday @ 15:30

[Sam Tuke]

Hi Luke, I'm not sure we've met, thanks for joining the discussion :) Happy to
hear that these stalwart tools have been serving you well.

> if i may be... ah... how can i put this... email sysadmins "giving 
> up" on setting up a mailing list and setting up a *forum* instead, 
> has me concerned.

The challenge described was solely with Mailman 3, otherwise known as the
combination of: Mailman Core, Postorius, MailmanClient, HyperKitty, and
HyperKitty Mailman plugin. Specifically: Docker images with hard-coded IP
addresses, Podman storage layer incompatibilities, and a ruby script that died
leaving few clues as to its murderer. No doubt with more time I would have resolved
these, but those of us who met have been waiting long enough to continue those
discussions.

In any case Discourse was a better option from the start in my view, for the
features which were mentioned - it has many tools for fostering and managing
communities which other systems lack, and has extensive support for
mailing-list-like interaction (submit topics by email, reply by email, forward
all topics by email).

I've also run mailman 2 for over a decade, and it's a reliable ally that's easy
to configure. However that's not the best tool for this job. We are fortunate to 
have a variety of Open Source options in this space, and can each choose the 
tool which suits us best.

Kind regards,

Sam.

On 11/02/2020 23:47, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 9:21 PM Sam Tuke <mail at samtuke.com 
> <mailto:mail at samtuke.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> PS Sorry for the delay; I went through three (VPS) servers and 
> wrestled with a variety of copies of Mailman 3 before deciding that 
> Discourse was a better option.
> 
> 
> sam... i, ah... i've been running debian, exim4, mailman, fail2ban, 
> greylistd, virtual domains, and at one point even integrated with 
> cyrus2.2, running my mail server now continuously since 2006, and i 
> didn't have any difficulties at all following the instructions on
> how to set up mailman with debian and exim4.
> 
> if i may be... ah... how can i put this... email sysadmins "giving 
> up" on setting up a mailing list and setting up a *forum* instead, 
> has me concerned.
> 
> my (extensive) group project management experience immediately leads 
> me to ask: where is the wiki which describes the (full) setup on the 
> fosdem servers (including the config files), so that they can be 
> reviewed, commented on, suggestions made, and improvements 
> discussed?
> 
> also, has a staging server been set up so that modifications can be 
> tested out prior to going live?
> 
> l.


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