<div dir="ltr"><div>big +1 for this.</div><div><br></div><div>There is just one thing:</div><div><br></div><div>I would never do such operation without clear support from the organizers. It is important (for me) that I can speak with them having their trust, attention and respect, and not simply being considered a hysterical dump dora. This project has to become a part of FOSDEM, not just "yet another play in the gallery".</div><div><br></div><div>A part of this, everything is as simple (and even more) as you said...</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you!</div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 October 2015 at 13:31, Pieter Hintjens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ph@imatix.com" target="_blank">ph@imatix.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Asking for upfront consensus here is not going to work.<br>
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Nor do you need it. Those who wish a COC and the (non trivial)<br>
infrastructure to implement it should make that happen. Simply form a<br>
FOSDEM COC committee, come to agreement on your text, publish it. Then<br>
form a group of volunteers who will station areas on the campus. Hand<br>
each visitor a copy of the COC. Make sure your staff are present full<br>
time, and do not drink any beer. You can find plenty of safe spaces.<br>
It should be easy to document any incidents, and provide support in<br>
case of need to file criminal complaints.<br>
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None of this needs agreement from the FOSDEM organizers, does it.<br>
You're not asking them for any resources, time, or formal spaces.<br>
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-Pieter Hintjens<br>
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Stephan Eggermont <<a href="mailto:stephan@stack.nl" target="_blank">stephan@stack.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone<br>
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>> Op 30 okt. 2015 om 11:25 heeft Christophe Vandeplas <<a href="mailto:christophe@vandeplas.com" target="_blank">christophe@vandeplas.com</a>> het volgende geschreven:<br>
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>> It's funny how some subjects become a repeatable story a few months<br>
>> before FOSDEMĀ .<br>
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> That is easily explained: there are needs that aren't being addressed.<br>
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> A CoC is a way some people hope to address those needs. Other people express doubts that adding a paper statement will have any, or the wished, effect.<br>
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> Fosdem is about freedom and openness. Being open to everyone who wants to participate can conflict with freedom to express yourself and the organization creates its own balance in that.<br>
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> When looking at the participation, I can see why people feel the need for more inclusiveness. If minorities say they don't feel welcome, and fear harassment, ignoring those feelings and the underlying needs achieves nothing.<br>
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> While we cannot meet all needs, we can acknowledge them as valid needs and explain the chosen balance and policy.<br>
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> Stephan Eggermont<br>
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