<div dir="ltr">Wow, I can't believe I just read this. I was already extremely disappointed by the way this thread was going, but this is some really out there BS.<div><br></div><div>It's 2015, there have been countless reports, blog posts, discussions for *years* about the problems that happen in tech conferences and events. For years we've all been working towards making the tech industry more inclusive and diverse, promoting dialog and creating safe spaces for everyone. This includes codes of conduct both online and offline, because they are an extremely important piece in making sure everyone is welcome and safe and allowed to practice that freedom that you just boasted so dearly about.</div><div><br></div><div>As a member of the majority, you face no obstacles in that regard, so you walk around with blinders about how everyone else feels when they're in a tech environment. I assume this is why you just wrote what you wrote, and why most other people in this thread are also writing all this "just be nice to each other" BS. Ignorance is bliss.</div><div><br></div><div>This is not a question of "Why". It's a question of "When". If you're asking why, especially in shocked, appaled or sarcastic tones, you seriously should take it upon yourselves to rethink your attitude towards other people and maybe realize that being an unempathetic asshole might work well when you're chugging beers with your mates, but doesn't really help towards making the tech environment a place where everybody can feel safe and supported.</div><div><br></div><div>You want to know why a code of conduct is needed? Because of you, that's why.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>andreia gaita<br>--------------------<br><a href="http://blog.worldofcoding.com" target="_blank">blog.worldofcoding.com</a><br><a href="http://andreiagaita.net" target="_blank">andreiagaita.net</a><div><a href="http://github.com/shana" target="_blank">github.com/shana</a></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Sanel Zukan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sanelz@gmail.com" target="_blank">sanelz@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Imifos <<a href="mailto:imifos@gmail.com">imifos@gmail.com</a>> writes:<br>
> I'm a bit shocked by the pattern here… All resistance against the idea of a<br>
<span class="">> Code of Conduct is formulated by mockery, disrespect and/or sarcasm.<br>
<br>
</span>Because the idea of a Code of Conduct on a conference like FOSDEM (where<br>
we preach free software _like free speech_) is not only ridiculous, but<br>
abysmal. Beside, no one gave you sarcastic response, but realistic - it<br>
is up to you how will decipher it.<br>
<br>
My 2c.<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
> On 30 October 2015 at 11:25, Christophe Vandeplas <<a href="mailto:christophe@vandeplas.com">christophe@vandeplas.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> It's funny how some subjects become a repeatable story a few months<br>
>> before FOSDEM .<br>
>><br>
>> I've spend many years into organising FOSDEM, and I must say that<br>
>> during this time, I've have learned very interesting things about<br>
>> human behavior.<br>
>><br>
>> In the end from what I learned, (but then again I'm not organiser<br>
>> anymore), the best thing will probably be to print the whole Belgian<br>
>> legislation into the FOSDEM Brochure. Fortunately we can exclude the<br>
>> European one, as all EU laws need to be transcribed into local law as<br>
>> I understood.<br>
>><br>
>> This Code is definitely more complete than an ad-hoc Code of Conduct<br>
>> written by geeks that are far away from the reality and don't have the<br>
>> experience.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Kind regards<br>
>> Christophe<br>
>><br>
>> PS: if the irony is unclear: Let's also publish a FOSDEM driving-rules<br>
>> for the conference ground. I guess that this will definitely clear<br>
>> things out in addition to the Belgian driving rules....<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 29 October 2015 at 23:03, Tom Marble <<a href="mailto:tmarble@info9.net">tmarble@info9.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > FOSDEM Organizers:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > FOSDEM is a fantastic conference and the only thing I can<br>
>> > think of that would make it better is publishing a Code of Conduct:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > <a href="http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2015/02/01/the-fosdem-conundrum/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2015/02/01/the-fosdem-conundrum/</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > <a href="https://twitter.com/fosdem/status/561885201383821312" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/fosdem/status/561885201383821312</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Will the FOSDEM 2016 edition have a CoC?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > --Tom<br>
>> ><br>
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