<div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">> even if nobody is able
to enforce a code </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">We need indeed to have a
dedicated team of a few educated, open-minded and "experienced-in-negotiation"
people that are present, easy "findable" and having the
"power" to intervene - or just show presence. Then we need a clear communication to the attendees.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><br></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">> there is not enough</span>
consensus to have one</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">There is absolutely no
need for consensus. The only thing that is needed is a word of power from the FOSDEM
core team, followed by someone the core team trusts that handles this aspect.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><br></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">Easy peasy :-)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">Cheers</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">/tc</span></p></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 October 2015 at 10:19, Daniel Pocock <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:daniel@pocock.pro" target="_blank">daniel@pocock.pro</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 30/10/15 09:44, Sanel Zukan wrote:<br>
> Tom Marble <<a href="mailto:tmarble@info9.net">tmarble@info9.net</a>> writes:<br>
>> FOSDEM Organizers:<br>
>><br>
>> FOSDEM is a fantastic conference and the only thing I can<br>
>> think of that would make it better is publishing a Code of Conduct:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2015/02/01/the-fosdem-conundrum/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2015/02/01/the-fosdem-conundrum/</a><br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://twitter.com/fosdem/status/561885201383821312" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/fosdem/status/561885201383821312</a><br>
>><br>
>> Will the FOSDEM 2016 edition have a CoC?<br>
> -1<br>
><br>
> I think this should be done per room/project basis if admin prefers so I<br>
> can choose whether to participate in that room or not. Your links are<br>
> jokes (open statement and a joke) and if you have issues with them, I<br>
> believe you are not familiar with cultural differences or not<br>
> understainding writer intentions.<br>
><br>
> Some cultures has really open joke format just as some cultures are<br>
> using cursing words openly, so should I be offended if someone mention 'f*ck'<br>
> because his/her projector is not working or because he tried to visually<br>
> explain his problem?<br>
><br>
> FOSDEM is open conference and if CoC (good name btw) is going to be<br>
> enforced, what to expect in a years after that? Dress code or shaved<br>
> faces, because someone finds that offending?<br>
<br>
</span>The "E" in FOSDEM is for Europe, so it is probably not reasonable to<br>
suggest FOSDEM needs to find a way to make behavior from every region of<br>
the world compatible, just attempting to suggest what it is for the<br>
standards that residents of European countries expect is enough.<br>
<br>
It is all very well to give examples of where a code of conduct "worked"<br>
or was "used" for something. It is not hard to find just as many<br>
examples (both conferences and workplaces) where people have violated<br>
such codes (and possibly even the law) and the people responsible have<br>
covered it up or talked their way around it because it wasn't convenient<br>
to enforce the code or the law.<br>
<br>
So the real question is, if there is a code of conduct, who is going to<br>
enforce it and how?<br>
<br>
I'm not arguing for or against the code itself, I would just like to see<br>
people talk about<br>
(a) what is the problem they are trying to fix,<br>
(b) what they will actually do about it (and what are alternatives) and<br>
(c) how FOSDEM will be better as a consequence.<br>
<br>
However, even if nobody is able to enforce a code or there is not enough<br>
consensus to have one, it would be useful to give a statement about the<br>
principles that we value and agree on. That is all it is, a statement<br>
of a principles, not some new law that somebody is going to try to<br>
enforce. Such statements help to remind people and give them a point of<br>
reference and simply repeating such things often enough (like<br>
advertisements for fast food) can have an effect in the long term.<br>
<br>
There are other ways to approach these issues too, such as recognizing<br>
people who do positive things to make FOSDEM and our industry more<br>
pleasant to participate in.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Daniel<br>
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