[FOSDEM] It's time for a Code of Conduct

[Emanuil Tolev]

On 30 October 2015 at 14:20, Emanuil Tolev <emanuil.tolev at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 30 October 2015 at 14:03, Pieter Hintjens <ph at imatix.com> wrote:
>
> It would be useful to put down a central meeting point for volunteers
> interested in this, so that there's a central place reports can come to,
> and so the volunteer group can organise each day. I'm inclined to suggest
> the desk at K, the only problem with that being that it can be quite
> crowded. But it does have a supply room in the back if immediate private
> conversation is required, and it's close to the staff room for serious
> reports.
>

Actually apparently there already is a staff member who coordinates this
aspect (see other thread by Johan). Now he's mentioned it I do recall being
told there was one when I last volunteered. Perhaps we can form a more
organised group this year while reporting any incidents to that person, and
working on producing simple and short briefs on what to do in
after-the-fact situations. A conduct hack!


>
> Greetings,
> Emanuil
>
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>> -Pieter
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>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Daniel Pocock <daniel at pocock.pro> wrote:
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>> > On 30/10/15 14:10, Andreia Gaita wrote:
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>> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Daniel Pocock <daniel at pocock.pro
>> >> <mailto:daniel at pocock.pro>> wrote:
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>> >>     On 30/10/15 13:06, Andreia Gaita wrote:
>> >>     > This is not a question of "Why". It's a question of "When". If
>> you're
>> >>     > asking why, especially in shocked, appaled or sarcastic tones,
>> you
>> >>     > seriously should take it upon yourselves to rethink your attitude
>> >>     > towards other people and maybe realize that being an unempathetic
>> >>     > asshole might work well when you're chugging beers with your
>> >>     mates, but
>> >>     > doesn't really help towards making the tech environment a place
>> where
>> >>     > everybody can feel safe and supported.
>> >>     >
>> >>     > You want to know why a code of conduct is needed? Because of you,
>> >>     that's
>> >>     > why.
>> >>
>> >>     You have written about people being unempathetic but I feel this
>> >>     conclusion fails to show empathy with the people you are trying to
>> >>     convince.  You literally conclude with an "us-and-them" posture.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Why would I be empathetic towards people that are being sarcastic and
>> >> dismissive of something that has been clearly shown to be important
>> >> through countless examples and conversations over the years? Why am I
>> >> the one required to be empathetic towards people who apparently don't
>> >> think that this is important because it doesn't happen to them?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Because you obviously care about this and that is the effort that
>> > leaders sometimes have to make when they want to change something.
>> >
>> > Also, because it will show how you would negotiate with people in a
>> > real-life conflict situation, listening to both sides and gaining their
>> > trust, no matter how you feel about it personally.
>> >
>> > At no point was I trying to defend any of the more ridiculous things
>> > that have been said in this discussion.  It is not about showing empathy
>> > with such comments but looking behind them to try and work out how to
>> > reach the people who made them.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Daniel
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