[FOSDEM] messages missing/changed (was: Academic Freedom vs CoC at FOSDEM)

[Geert Stappers]

On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 09:41:55AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> On 11/01/2022 09:21, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> >
> > You have made your point. The FOSDEM team disagrees with you. The code
> > of conduct is not going to go away, and you are expected to abide by it.
>
> Please don't change what was already written
>
> The original message: "Is it a good moment to contemplate the
> relationship between Academic Freedom and CoCs?"
>
> Nobody asked to remove the CoC.
>
> Can you please comment on why Olav's reply didn't appear immediately to
> other participants on the list and how that led another Debian
> Developer, Geert, to accuse me of forwarding a private message onto the
> list?
>
> > Geert Stappers
> > Assumes the Olav Vitters posting was a private request,
> > unhappy to seen an onlist reply of it ...
>
> We saw this in a previous year when messages about Google were not
> appearing on the FOSDEM list:
>
> https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2021q1/003193.html
>
> Have other messages with comments about academic liberty been lost?
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel
>


Headers from the Olav Vitters  email:

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I do read that as "email had to wait for approval".



My previous email in this thread:

| On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 07:47:41PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
| > On 10/01/2022 18:56, Olav Vitters wrote:
| > > Hardly anyone responded to this. Yet the emails continue.
| > > Could this please stop?
| 
| +1
| 
| 
| Regards
| Geert Stappers
| Assumes the Olav Vitters posting was a private request,
| unhappy to seen an onlist reply of it ...
| -- 
| Silence is hard to parse

The message is and was "Could this please stop?"


Regards
Geert Stappers
Shouldn't have to try  to put out fire with gasoline.
--
Silence is hard to parse